Comments on: Desert Plaques – Art or Graffiti? http://www.splitterchoss.com/2008/06/10/desert-plaques-art-or-graffiti/ Climbing, Adventure, Gear & Choss Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:55:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tk http://www.splitterchoss.com/2008/06/10/desert-plaques-art-or-graffiti/#comment-79402 tk Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:07:33 +0000 http://www.splitterchoss.com/?p=357#comment-79402 Well, this thread is old, but I'll chime in anyways after just coming back from the creek. Times have indeed changed, and not for the better. A small plaque on a piece of stone at the base of a climb is a hell of a lot less intrusive than the internet- which has literally torched a ton of places that used to be off the beaten path and reserved for those with some know how and a good sense of adventure. Add in little helmet cams, and you have the ADD crowd of climbers that dont give a shit about the past and those that came before them. My two cents. TK, highcountry, co Well, this thread is old, but I’ll chime in anyways after just coming back from the creek. Times have indeed changed, and not for the better. A small plaque on a piece of stone at the base of a climb is a hell of a lot less intrusive than the internet- which has literally torched a ton of places that used to be off the beaten path and reserved for those with some know how and a good sense of adventure. Add in little helmet cams, and you have the ADD crowd of climbers that dont give a shit about the past and those that came before them. My two cents.
TK, highcountry, co

]]> By: Ben http://www.splitterchoss.com/2008/06/10/desert-plaques-art-or-graffiti/#comment-7819 Ben Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:14:13 +0000 http://www.splitterchoss.com/?p=357#comment-7819 I guess that seeing the changes at Indian Creek over the past decade mostly make me think that we need to do everything we can to minimize our impact. Tagging new routes is an impact. I like climbing for lots of reasons, including getting into the wilderness. To me, traveling with a light footprint is essential. So, I wouldn't tag a crack. I guess that seeing the changes at Indian Creek over the past decade mostly make me think that we need to do everything we can to minimize our impact. Tagging new routes is an impact.

I like climbing for lots of reasons, including getting into the wilderness. To me, traveling with a light footprint is essential. So, I wouldn’t tag a crack.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.splitterchoss.com/2008/06/10/desert-plaques-art-or-graffiti/#comment-7494 Aaron Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:39:49 +0000 http://www.splitterchoss.com/?p=357#comment-7494 Since the begining of time man has left hieroglyphs, cave paintings, scrolls, and etchings to detail history. Is this graffiti or a unique way of relaying our history and achievments to future generations? The way I see it, as long as these plaques are a way of passing on our climbing history to future generations then they are nothing more or less than the cave paintings in Southern Arizona. Imagine being at the base of Devils Tower and finding a small stone etched with a date and a name of the first person to ascend this rock. That, to me, is history. When does it become graffiti?, when plaques are destoryed and replaced, overplaced, or become an eye-sore. If discretion is used, these plaques can be a great way to pass on what we accomplish to future generations. Imagine being at the base of Everest and finding a rock with the words "Edmund Hillary, FA" scratched onto it's surface. Since the begining of time man has left hieroglyphs, cave paintings, scrolls, and etchings to detail history. Is this graffiti or a unique way of relaying our history and achievments to future generations? The way I see it, as long as these plaques are a way of passing on our climbing history to future generations then they are nothing more or less than the cave paintings in Southern Arizona. Imagine being at the base of Devils Tower and finding a small stone etched with a date and a name of the first person to ascend this rock. That, to me, is history. When does it become graffiti?, when plaques are destoryed and replaced, overplaced, or become an eye-sore. If discretion is used, these plaques can be a great way to pass on what we accomplish to future generations. Imagine being at the base of Everest and finding a rock with the words “Edmund Hillary, FA” scratched onto it’s surface.

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